OpenAI released GPT-5 with a focus on Coding. Will AI make developers redundant now?

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OpenAI hat gestern GPT-5 veröffentlicht mit dem Fokus auf Coding. GPT-5 ist (noch) nicht AGI, aber es soll praktisch über alle Benchmarks eine klare Verbesserung zu GPT-4o und o3 darstellen.

Witzig ist auch, dass GPT-5 anscheinend einen Benchmark-Chart zu seinen Gunsten manipuliert hat. Oder war es doch OpenAI?

Auch die Halluzinations-Rate soll sich bei manchen Benchmarks stark verbessert haben. Von etwa 5% auf knapp 1%.

Habe gerade die Programmierkenntnisse von GPT-5 getestet, und habe gleich eine halluzinierte Antwort auf eine Frage nach online C64-Emulatoren bekommen. GPT-5 hat einfach nicht existierende URLs erfunden. Also Halluzinationen sind noch nicht gelöst.

Aber Coding soll sich noch einmal verbessert haben. Generell können GPTs immer längere Aufgaben autonom lösen. Kann mich noch an ChatGPT 3.5 erinnern, wo man gerade einmal 10 Zeilen Code generieren konnte und dieser war auch oft fehlerhaft.

Mittlerweile können die aktuellen LLMs kleinere Demo-Programme und Games mit ein paar Hundert Zeilen Code in einem Shot programmieren und erzeugen in der Regel sogar ausführbaren Code. In wenigen Sekunden bis Minuten.

Das wird das Coding dramatisch verändern, man wird in Zukunft immer mehr Code-Snippets von einer KI generieren lassen und den Code dann anpassen und (hoffentlich) noch einmal überprüfen. Das kann tatsächlich Zeit ersparen. Ist eine ziemlich heftige Entwicklung. Wenn das so weitergeht, braucht man vielleicht bald wirklich viel weniger Developer.

Für KI-basiertes Programmieren mit Hilfe einer KI gibt es mittlerweile sogar einen Ausdruck. Vibe Coding.

Generell stellt uns die Weiterentwicklung der KI vor ein Dilemma. Soll ich den Skill x wie zum Beispiel Coding jetzt überhaupt noch mühsam erlernen und perfektionieren, wenn in ein paar Jahren eine KI den Skill vielleicht sowieso 10x oder 100x besser und schneller kann als die meisten Menschen? Werden wir durch die KI-Entwicklung viele Fähigkeiten verlernen oder haben wir dann mehr Zeit uns anderen Challenges zu widmen?

Was sagt ihr dazu? Habt ihr GPT-5 schon ausprobiert? GPT-5 ist bereits auch für Non-Plus-User verfügbar.

OpenAI finally released GPT-5

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https://chatgpt.com/

https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1953504357821165774

Manipulated (probably AI-generated) Software Engineering Benchmark Chart

https://x.com/DailyXplorer/status/1953511776605061568

GPT-5 Presentation

Video credit: OpenAI

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OpenAI released GPT-5 yesterday with a focus on coding. GPT-5 is not (yet) AGI, but it is a clear improvement over GPT-4o and o3 across virtually all benchmarks.

It's also funny that GPT-5 apparently manipulated a benchmark chart in its favor. Or was it OpenAI after all?

The hallucination rate is also said to have improved significantly in some benchmarks. From about 5% to just under 1%.

I just tested GPT-5's programming skills and immediately got a hallucinated answer to a question about online C64 emulators. GPT-5 simply invented URLs that don't exist. So hallucinations are not yet solved.

But coding is said to have improved once again. In general, GPTs can solve increasingly longer tasks autonomously. I can still remember ChatGPT 3.5 era, where you could only generate 10 lines of code, and even that was often flawed.

Now, the current LLMs can program smaller demo programs and games with a few hundred lines of code in one shot and usually even generate executable code. In a matter of seconds to minutes.

This will dramatically change coding. In the future, more and more code snippets will be generated by AI, and the code will then be adapted and (hopefully) checked by human software engineers. This can actually save time. It's quite a dramatic development. If this continues, we may soon need far fewer developers, indeed.

There is now even a term for AI-based coding with the help of an AI assistant. Vibe coding.

In general, the further development of AI presents a dilemma. Should I still bother learning and perfecting skill x, such as coding, when in a few years AI may be able to do the skill 10x or 100x better and faster than most humans anyway? Will AI development cause us to lose many skills, or will we have more time to devote our time and intelligence to other challenges?

What do you think? Have you tried GPT-5 yet? GPT-5 is already available also for non-Plus users.



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From my first experience, this one is the best LLM model available to general public. Haven't tested it code-wise, though.

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Ai will definetly help a lot of new and inoving tech project start

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I don't think it can replace developers, it can help a lot but it's still not good enough

!PIZZA

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Exactly! ChatGPT and other LLMs are definitely going to provide great support. However, verifying code, determining what is needed, and understanding how code works will require human intervention for a long time.
This current AI development will also lead to major problems in the future. The internet is already flooded with poor-quality AI content. Now, we will also likely see faulty code uploaded to GitHub by many users. This will cause AI to learn from its own mistakes and believe them to be correct.

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Yeah, like when they say the future ai will be trained on trash ai generated content, what can it learn?

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I don't think they'll lose their jobs. It will make things easier, and if not, other types of jobs will be created. Like supervising AI.

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In Deutschland ist es leider noch nicht verfügbar, bin schon sehr gespannt und hoffe, dass sich die EU nicht wieder querstellt. Ich finde es super, dass man nicht mehr zwischen 6 Modellen wählen muss, sondern automatisch das passende Modell verwendet wird.

Der Benchmark ist echt ein Witz, ich verstehe nicht wie man so etwas überhaupt veröffentlichen kann.

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Hmm, vlt dauert es noch bis es für alle User ausgerollt wird.

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I'm afraid that's what will happen.

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Well well well, the time has come then 😂 programmers were the coolest and now a lines of prompt from an average dude will do their work 🥺 if you ask me i would say AI coding tools are amazing but still make mistakes. It’s cool how fast they can write code now, but we definitely need people to review and fix things and without much experience, the average person could still not understand enough to work with chatgpt to create super awesome programs.

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I think developers are still essential in validating the job and making it work properly

!BBH

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I have tried GPT-5 and it is more efficient compared to the previous versions

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GPT5 hat auf Anfrage gleich mal GPT4 schlecht gemacht^^

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I think the ability to create and launch mini programs and interact with it looks pretty cool with this version of GPT. I'll still learn skills I find interesting (like drawing) even though AI has already become much better at it, I love the process and journey more than what the outcome of having that skill would get :)

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The coming time is modern, so what they have introduced now is much faster than the previous version.

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I haven't tried GPT-5 yet. I'll have to test things out.

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IMO other AI startups have overtaken OpenAI, which are now just trying to keep up. They always use superlatives that aren't reflected in practice. I'm much more excited to see what the Asian researchers will come up with next.

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