RE: 🐝 Saturday Savers Week 47 — All Flags Still Green!

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Most of what I have read on posts and comments on Hive about running a Hive Witness node say that the costs of running one will certainly exceed what is earned (in the form of Hive Power) unless one is within the Top 20 Witnesses !INDEED. 💸🤯🤓

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Yeah, outside the top 20 it can go pretty slowly, though thankfully our witness has already produced and signed 4 blocks. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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A new Hive Witness having signed at least one block is already good progress, since I see a lot of Hive Witness nodes not having produced even one block before shutting down. 🧘‍♂️😎

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Yes, I very much agree. Our witness has been doing pretty well since launching. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Let's hope that the respective Hive Witnesses page for PeakD and Ecency show how many blocks each Witness node has successfully mined, not just the number of missed blocks. 🧘‍♂️

@borniet's @botlord node currently has 7 missed blocks, while @aliveandmmb currently has no missed blocks. 😎 I think that Bjorn learned from hosting @botlord to avoid missing blocks on the @aliveandmmb node that you co-created with him. 🤓

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Yes, I'd very much like to see that feature implemented.

Yep, our little witness is chugging along pretty well I'd say, and he's gotten a whole lot of experience running nodes.

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I think that the percentage of successfully mined blocks over missed blocks is more important than just the missed blocks and/or mined blocks. 🤯 Hive Witness nodes which have been working for many years would generally have more missed blocks than new ones. 🤓

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Indeed, the more information, the better, and also true, since it's cumulative. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Any Hive dev (such as @borniet in this case when he has the time) can create a Hive app that shows only Hive Witnesses on one page, but with a lot of details that would definitely exceed what #PeakD or any other Hive frontend displays about such Witnesses. 😎

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I think that a detailed witness dapp would be excellent, along with a better BeeSwap. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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By the way, I noticed that Arcange is no longer the Top 1 Hive Witness, where it needs more than 1.1 million Hive Power worth of votes to return to the first position. 🤯🤓

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I know, and why did you make a separate comment again to tell me that, as opposed to just editing your other comment? 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I created a separate comment so that it would be more convenient for me to reply to shorter comments (even if there are more of them) !INSTEAD of (fewer) longer comments. 🤯 I thought that it's only my comments about your "keyboard autocorrect" where you don't want separate comments for !INDEED. 🤯😅

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OK, I understand. No, I'm not crazy about multiple replies to the same comment in general. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Imagine that you have a comment so long that the person on Hive you are talking with replied with 5 comments or more to that single comment. 🤯😆

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That does not sound enjoyable, I must say. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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It may not be enjoyable for you, but perhaps the person on Hive you are talking with would enjoy it. 😅

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Perhaps indeed, and if that is the case then I'd say that s/he should engage with others who also enjoy such a dynamic. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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You can simply redirect two people who enjoy replying with multiple comments under a single comment or post to each other, and watch their engagement multiply (exponentially). 😆

Anyway, your !BEER token tipping command there failed, probably because the BEER bot is not drunk at that moment and did see the PIZZA token tipping command on your comment there. 🤯😅

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Thankfully I don't come across that many people that do that.

Cool, it happens sometimes. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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If you notice (at least) two people (on Hive) talking to each other with multiple replies per comment, then you can simply avoid looking at their conversations. 🧘‍♂️

The BEER token tipping command on my previous comment didn't work, even if it is the only bot command on that comment. 🤯 It looks like the BEER bot was drunk that time after all! 😆😅

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So should I have ignored this comment then?

See, I told you, it works sometimes, and not others, regardless of what other tip calls are used with it. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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What I mean is (almost) every single comment from two people talking here on Hive gets two (or more) replies from the other. 🤯

Let's just think of the !BEER tipping token as the "drunk token" from now on. 🍺😆

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That sounds like it would get confusing fast.

Works for me. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Those (two or more) people might be well-prepared for such exponentially-growing conversations! 🤯

Here's a "drunk !BEER token" tipping attempt for you! 🍺😅

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I hope so, and I'm glad that I won't be a part of it, unless of course the conversations are actually interesting, and even then I don't like multiple threads of conversation under the same post.

Fingers crossed! 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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If you are part of those conversations, then you could simply reply to one of the comments for every "layer" even if they talk using multiple replies per comment. 🤓

My BEER token tipping command on my previous comment worked twice, here and here. 🤔 That's "drunk BEER tipping" !INDEED! 🍻😂

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I seriously have no interest in doing that.

Yep, it's a BEER roulette bot. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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It was only if you (managed to) become part of such conversations though (whether you liked it or not). 🤯

It would be better if the !BEER token tipping bot always tipped one or more BEER, instead of zero or more. 🍻😅

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I would generally avoid getting pulled into conversations like that.

Yep, true, or even that it just worked as it's supposed to work. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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But the problem is that you might eventually get pulled into such conversations, so let's !HOPE that you are ready when that happens !INDEED! 😆

Your BEER token tipping command there worked twice again! 😎 Perhaps the !WINEX token tipping bot can also become drunk from time to time (and probably already sometimes is, as it sometimes comments directly under the comment where it is called). 😆😅

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I can't get pulled in if I don't respond!

Nifty, lucky you. I think lots of bots are wacky, especially lately. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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You can still get (suddenly) tagged there though (and directly asked to join in)! 😆

A Hive token tipping bot might get wacky like what happened to Crrdlx's HBIT bot (which technically is a token tipping bot too because it gives 0.1 HBIT to the author of the post or comment being replied to) before. 😅

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Token tipping bot, like this: !hbit

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crrdlx, you mined 0.9 🟧 HBIT and the user you replied to (savvyplayer) received 0.1 HBIT on your behalf as a tip. When you mine HBIT, you're also playing the Wusang: Isle of Blaq game. 🏴‍☠️

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Thanks for the 0.1 HBIT "token tip" !INDEED! 🤗

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You know how many comments and replies disappear into the void. How would anyone know whether I even saw such a tag if I don't upvote or respond?

It keeps things interesting on the blockchain, as there's always some bot drama to keep us entertained. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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They might continue tagging you occasionally (if they think that your mention notifications just get buried on your feed) until you finally reply (likely by asking them to refrain from tagging you)! 🤯😆

That makes me think that there is no !FUN in a "perfect" bot. 🤖😅

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Thankfully that has not happened yet.

Nope, bots that work well are very boring, as there's no drama or variance in how they operate. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I wonder how we can say how well a bot works if it employs some sort of randomization (such as the HBIT token mining bot randomly giving BLAQ-based tokens). 🤔

The randomization itself may have problems too (such as the random number generator producing numbers that mostly "lean" to one side). 🤯🤓

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The first part of your sentence there is pretty convoluted and difficult to understand. Then it wouldn't be a true random-number generator if it skews to one side. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I wasn't able to remove the word "if" between "say" and "how" on the first sentence of my previous comment. 🤯

I have read from (skilled) programmers online that there is no such thing as a "truly random" number generator (program) !INDEED. 🤓

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Well that's odd.

I'd suggest checking out @thecrazygm's random dice roller that uses block data for randomization. His tests were quite interesting. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I saw his website at https://thecrazygm.com/ and wanted to test it !INDEED, but it seems that there is not enough information there about the specifics of the randomization. 🤔🤯 We can register to his game on his website, though it requires Web2 information (username, password, and email address) upon registration, and Hive accounts aren't supported (at least directly). 🤯🤓

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Scan his posts, as he wrote two on exactly how he generates the randomness. His game website is now separate from the site for all his Hive tools, and on the gaming site, yes, he uses those methods of logging in. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Anyway, I almost avoided publishing my other reply to your comment there, because I saw the "Saturday Savers" phrase on the title of the original post, which thankfully is Bjorn's. 🤯😅

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Yep, Bjorn's posts are fine, only those published by the @eddie-earner account need to be avoided. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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The word "Saturday Savers" on the title of any original post will give me a "mini heart attack" after publishing or just before publishing a comment with any token tipping command. 😱😆😅

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I imagine so for a tipper in a tipless land. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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That also includes any bot command, not just any Hive token tipping command !INDEED. 🤔 The title having the word "Saturday" in it may already cause me to think twice about publishing a comment with a token tipping command, especially as I already accidentally tipped you under official #SaturdaySavers posts a few times. 🤯😅

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Well, as long as you don't do any more digital archaeology, it shouldn't be a problem any longer, because the Saturday Savers Club came to an end after 5 years of operation. The Slothly Savers Club (I came up with 'Slothly', it was originally just 'Sloth'), a newly rebranded and relaunched iteration of the Saturday Savers Club that just began doesn't have any rules at all against tip usage. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Do you mean that if I continue doing "digital archaeology", I might (accidentally) use token tipping commands under official #SaturdaySavers posts that might get noticed by someone else? 🤯

While it's known that you love coining terms, you also use already-existing but unusual words such as "Slothly". 😆

Your "quick typing fingers" (for which I would like to type "keyboard autocorrect" but you no longer want to put the "blame" on it most of the time) made you type all again tip! 🤣

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You can do your comment mining, but if you do, you need to be aware of which post the comment to which you're planning on replying is located.

No surprise then.

Cool, thanks. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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It looks like you coined the term "comment mining" as the process by which I discover your old comments by means of "digital archaeology", itself a term you apparently also mined !INDEED! 😆

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Yep, pretty soon I'll have us speaking a whole new language! 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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The more you communicate with other "word coiners" (such as @borniet), the faster you coin more words! 😆

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Indeed, pretty soon you'll need a dictionary or translator to even understand us! 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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@borniet can (easily) create such dictionary and/or translator when he has free time! 😆

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Time being the operative word there. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Exactly!!! And things are NOT getting better at the moment ;-)
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Indeedy, and lordy... 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I just got reminded of @borniet's to-do list (or to-do lists of to-do lists or however it could "morph" into)! 🤯🤯😆

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Yeah, and that's not even including all his day-to-day responsibilities in his life. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Yes, and Bjorn probably has separate to-do lists for that. 🤯🤓

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Likely so, and Hive is lower on the list. 😁 🙏 💚 ✨ 🤙

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Yes, and other online tasks not related to work are likely even lower than Hive on that list. 🤯🤓

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Indeed, he hasn't popped up on Blurt or Qortal yet either, even though he has accounts on both. 😁 🙏 💚 ✨ 🤙

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Let's say that Bjorn already has "half the job done" by managing to create his own accounts for both platforms !INDEED, where "the other half of the job" is using those platforms (at least occasionally). 😎

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Yep, that's true, and it would be great if it made even an occasional appearance. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I think that we can only !HOPE that Bjorn currently has them on his (massive) to-do list, and he manages to finish more tasks on the list faster than new ones are added !INDEED. 🤯🤗

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Yep, indeed, though it's not looking hopeful. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Let's hope that it's not retirement which will make Bjorn have (enough) free time again, like what I often tell @svanbo. 🤗🤯😅

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Burnout or retirement, whichever comes first, unless he escapes the rat race, that is. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I wonder if such retirement is a good thing (for Bjorn in particular), or simply a less worse thing than burnout. 🧘‍♂️🤯🤯😅

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Escaping the rat-race system is a far better option. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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To summarize what you meant above, I have created the following list: 🤓

  • burning out (before retirement) = (much) worse 🔥
  • just retirement = less worse ⌛
  • escaping the rat race = (far) better 🏃‍♂️

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Yes, that sums it up pretty well. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Anyway, it's good to know that even if the original post (by Bjorn) where we are talking under is published on the #InLeo community, #HiveEngage does not force opening our comments here on the InLeo frontend !INDEED. 😅

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The InLeo community is treated as usual, it's only a problem with LeoThreads, due to their unusual address format. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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When Arcange becomes active (not just occasionally present) here on Hive, a user of #HiveEngage can tell him to fix the #LeoThreads comments on the Hive Engage feed not following the user's selected favorite Hive frontend !INDEED. 🤓

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That'd be great, as would making it so that Engage can open nested comments and replies, instead of making it necessary to edit the address manually. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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That would allow me to reply to your comments under #LeoThreads container posts again, as well as I no longer needing to edit links of comments from any Hive account on #HiveEngage under such container posts. 😅

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Basically, it would open any comment or reply in the proper frontend, with no need to edit the address. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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That's even better !INDEED! 😎 I wonder though when (or if) Arcange would implement it himself (or at least make the #HiveEngage code FOSS so that other devs on Hive can improve the app). 🤯😅

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I certainly think so, and good question on both counts. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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It would be a good idea for other Hive devs to create their own Hive dapp similar to #HiveEngage, so that people on Hive (especially those who actively engage with other Hive authors) have more options for engagement tools !INDEED. 🤓😎

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The more the merrier, I always say! 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Let's !HOPE that in case a plan for such new Hive engagement dapp project is publicized, no person (on Hive) would see it as "competition against" #HiveBuzz !INDEED! 🤗

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It would take quite a lot of effort, and various components, to replicate what HiveBuzz does, so I don't really think that this would be an issue. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Perhaps the !ALIVE tribe would create its own version of #HiveBuzz, which can be named #AliveBuzz or simply #LiveBuzz (where only the first letter is different from HiveBuzz). 🖖🤣

Anyway, your "quick typing fingers" made you type HveBuzz. 🤯😆

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There's barely enough of us to do what we do now for that to be even remotely feasible. We need more community members to get involved to make things like that possible. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I should have added on my previous comment the phrase "when Bjorn has time" or "when the !ALIVE tribe gets another active Hive dev on the team". 🤯😅

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savvyplayer, you mined 0.9 🟧 HBIT and the user you replied to (tydynrain) received 0.1 HBIT on your behalf as a tip. When you mine HBIT, you're also playing the Wusang: Isle of Blaq game. 🏴‍☠️

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Yep, that would have helped a bit. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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In general, Hive really needs more (active) devs !INDEED. 🧘‍♂️

Anyway, I can't avoid noticing the missing period at the end of your sentence that was because of your "quick typing fingers". 🤯🤯😅

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I'd say that Hive needs more active everything. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Perhaps less of "active spammers" and "active flaggers" though. 🤯😅

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Yes, a paucity of both of those would be lovely. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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To summarize, you want more of everything on Hive except spams and flags !INDEED. 😅

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That sounds like a good way forward to me. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I think that you would also not want more HIVE tokens on the blockchain, if the market cap of the token does not increase at least in the same proportion. 💸🤯🤓

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Yep, there's way too much HIVE for its present level of uptake and adoption. There need to be a whole lot more people buying it than selling it. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I wonder if there are notable competitors of the Hive blockchain that causes the lack of buys (and increased sells) for the HIVE token, or the downward trend of the price of the token is simply caused by the overall dip in crypto. 🤯🤓

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Many more people are unstaking and selling HIVE than are buying and staking it. HIVE's fiat-dollar price has been steadily declining for years now, so the present crypto downturn is only part of it. I'm almost certain at this point that this is an intentional effort to destroy the blockchain. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I think that the more the price of the HIVE token goes down, the more people on Hive (especially influential ones such as Hive Witnesses and Hive Whales) should talk about some "unusual" methods to bring the price up, such as using the HBD on the DHF to increase the price of the HIVE token (like what @savvytester told me). 💸🤯🤓

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I think that burning all HBD in the DHF would help quite a lot. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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That seems to be a quick and effective way to solve the problem with the increased HBD in circulation !INDEED. 🧘‍♂️

People on Hive who still would like to support Hive funding proposals anyway could do so simply by sending HBD directly to (or putting as beneficiary) the Hive account used for funding proposals. 🤓

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Exactly, and it's a wonder that it hasn't been done yet given Hive's current horrible economic conditions.

Yep, that could work too I suppose. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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I'd first need a dictionary to look up what the meaning of "time" is again ;-)
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That action of looking for the definition (or meaning) of the word "time" will !INDEED take time! 🤯🤯🤣😂 @tydynrain would surely agree! 😆😅

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