The Truth About Engagement on Hive: My Analysis and Experience (ENGLISH SUBTITLES)
Over the past few days, the Hive community has been buzzing with discussions about “engagement.” But what does it really mean? Are we just talking about numbers—number of posts, comments, replies—or is there something deeper? How do we separate genuine interactions from simple spam that seeks only rewards? This is a complex question that I’ve been trying to understand, and in this video I share my thoughts and even a little experiment I did.
To start, I take a look at some interesting data brought by Azircon, which tries to categorize users into “normal” (0-50 comments/day), “superhumans” (50-150), and potential “spammers” (over 150). We analyze the list of “top commenters,” seeing figures like the HiveBuzz bot, Taskmaster (who appears to use AI to summarize videos), and other users known as wiseagent and shift, each with a different pattern. I even show where I fit into these graphs, according to Azircon data, and how this made me question the validity of these isolated metrics.
I decided to test it out in practice: I spent a day focused on interacting on Snaps. The experience? It was surprisingly easy to reach 50 comments in a few hours, especially when speaking in English. The platform seems more geared towards quick interaction, fluid conversation, almost like the old Twitter. Social engagement is high, but the direct financial return per comment, although it exists (linked to the Comment Reward and the value of the container), seems lower compared to other fronts.
I then analyzed the dynamics of Threads on InLeo. There, engagement in volume seems much lower. The "For You" feed makes it difficult for recent posts to have immediate visibility, and responses do not always come. However, the culture of creating longer "threads" and interacting with already established users (who have more Leo Power) can generate greater individual financial rewards per comment, even if in smaller quantities. It’s an interesting paradox: fewer interactions, but potentially more profitable individually.
This all brings me to the central point: what do we really value at Hive? Social engagement and community building (which seems to be stronger in Snaps) or interactions that generate a higher financial return (which is more evident in Threads)? We can’t just look at cold numbers. We need to consider reputation (most of the “top commenters” are not newbies), the quality of the interaction, the intention behind it (building vs. extracting value), and perhaps new metrics like the “KE ratio” that are starting to emerge. Real engagement is multifaceted.
This video is an invitation to reflect together. I don’t have all the answers, but I want to provoke discussion. What is your definition of valuable engagement at Hive? How can we encourage interactions that truly strengthen our blockchain? Let’s delve deeper into this debate.
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Nos últimos dias, a comunidade Hive tem fervilhado com discussões sobre "engajamento". Mas o que isso realmente significa? Estamos falando apenas de números – quantidade de posts, comentários, respostas – ou existe algo mais profundo? Como separamos interações genuínas do simples spam que busca apenas recompensas? Essa é uma questão complexa que venho tentando entender, e neste vídeo compartilho minhas reflexões e até um pequeno experimento que fiz.
Para começar, dou uma olhada nos dados interessantes trazidos pelo Azircon, que tentam categorizar os usuários entre "normais" (0-50 comentários/dia), "super-humanos" (50-150) e potenciais "spammers" (acima de 150). Analisamos a lista dos "top comentaristas", vendo figuras como o bot HiveBuzz, o Taskmaster (que parece usar IA para resumir vídeos), e outros usuários conhecidos como wiseagent e shift, cada um com um padrão diferente. Inclusive, mostro onde eu me encaixo nesses gráficos, segundo os dados do Azircon, e como isso me fez questionar a validade dessas métricas isoladas.
Decidi testar na prática: passei um dia focado em interagir nos Snaps. A experiência? Surpreendentemente fácil atingir 50 comentários em poucas horas, principalmente conversando em inglês. A plataforma parece mais voltada para a interação rápida, a conversa fluida, quase como o antigo Twitter. O engajamento social é alto, mas o retorno financeiro direto por comentário, embora exista (ligado ao Comment Reward e ao valor do container), parece menor comparado a outras frentes.
Depois, analisei a dinâmica das Threads na InLeo. Lá, o engajamento em volume parece bem menor. O feed "For You" dificulta que posts recentes tenham visibilidade imediata, e nem sempre as respostas vêm. No entanto, a cultura de criar "fios" (threads) mais longos e a interação com usuários já estabelecidos (que possuem mais Leo Power) podem gerar recompensas financeiras individuais maiores por comentário, mesmo que em menor quantidade. É um paradoxo interessante: menos interações, mas potencialmente mais lucrativas individualmente.
Isso tudo me leva ao ponto central: o que realmente valorizamos na Hive? Engajamento social e construção de comunidade (como parece mais forte nos Snaps) ou interações que geram maior retorno financeiro (mais evidentes nas Threads)? Não podemos olhar apenas para números frios. É preciso considerar a reputação (a maioria dos "top comentaristas" não são novatos), a qualidade da interação, a intenção por trás dela (construir vs. extrair valor) e talvez novas métricas, como o "KE ratio", que começam a surgir. O engajamento real é multifacetado.
Este vídeo é um convite para refletirmos juntos. Não tenho todas as respostas, mas quero provocar a discussão. Qual a sua definição de engajamento valioso na Hive? Como podemos incentivar interações que realmente fortaleçam a nossa blockchain? Vamos aprofundar esse debate.
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Bzzzrrr, análise interessante sobre o engajamento na Hive! Eu sempre pensei que a interação fosse mais do que apenas números, mas sim uma combinação de qualidade e quantidade. O experimento que o Vempromundo fez é incrível, provando que a interação rápida e fluida pode ser mais eficaz do que a espera por respostas. Uma lição importante para todos nós.
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People that read your blog and interact with what they have read by taking the time to write a good, substantive comment.
I think this can be done by rewarding comments. You can upvote comments yourself (if you have enough stake) or use services as @topcomment or @commentrewarder to upvote comments.
And comment at least on the comments you receive on your own blogs.
Thanks for your contribution. The Top Comment was a wonderful idea that you had, another arm in the search to reward good authors not only in the publication, but also in the comments.
I want to bring up a few more points on this topic, but I found 10 minutes of video too long, so I ended with the first points, but I believe that today or tomorrow at the latest I will be able to bring up the rest of the arguments.
Ola!
I've tried both Leo Threads and Snaps, but I enjoy engagement, so I stayed in Snaps.
Of course, earning something is a great bonus, but tbh, I can't really relate to the technical stuff that are often discussed in Leo threads. XD
In fact, if engagement is sought in snaps, practicality and speed are strong allies.
I always put subtitles in English to be able to reach a larger audience.
Thanks for commenting on YouTube too, it helps them see that people are interested in the content.
I think so, too... it's not every day that rewards are guaranteed, though we're happy when we receive some. However, it's the community and the bond that would really make you stay! :)
Yes, that's important! I'll be waiting for your future videos as well. ^^
My pleasure... the more engagement you have on your channel, the better. It attracts more casual viewers, I think. :)
I think the unfortunate reality is probably more than 80% and this is a conservative number are just here to make money or some people may say as "extract". If making money wasn't involved, then we would probably see the "REAL" people that were actually here to write, build and be part of something. If I'm not wrong, X is also having these issues as well where people are just faking their impressions and views with their "content" to get paid.
As for valuable engagement, that can vary depending on person and post. Posts like the one I'm commenting now are more opinionated and controversial may spark more lengthy discussions. Then some topics more people are passionate about like gaming etc then they can add more input.
Anyways personally for me, I feel valuable engagement is where the person was genuinely trying to comment first of all and it doesn't matter the length of their comment but you can see in their comment that they did read what was posted and tried to add some sort of input or opinion. Sometimes even a simple thanks for the info if they learned something new is good enough. It really depends on what was the goal of the post and I don't think there's a perfect answer for valuable engagement. everyone will have their own take on it~
we are now in a fast paced world (we want everything fast and this includes making money fast) where ai can summarize stuff for us and our attention is now stuck to short videos of 30 seconds to 1 minutes maybe even less. The brainrot is real and I don't want to go down the rabbit hole but I'm pretty sure it was all a plan to poison the minds so people can't think and truly see what's happening around
Excellent points raised, I believe that web2 monetization will eventually reach a level like we have here at Hive, without prerequisites or restrictions, but in fact, at what cost, more click baits, or extensive and meaningless topics, as in the case of X, just for more views and consequently more monetization.
Of all the ways I have seen so far, I believe that Hive still brings the best concept, reputation, vote, (now the KE), several ways of fair monetization, but also seeking to preserve the ecosystem. It is not the perfect scenario, but it is the best among those available so far.
About the population being increasingly 'corrupted' by a system of quick content that no longer makes them think for themselves, the good point we can take from this is that whoever is willing to learn and improve in something will swim with ease.
People urgently need to find ways to motivate those around them so that they do not become hostage to content that does not add anything, because this way they will grow not only intellectually, but also financially, as they will stand out from the rest in whatever they seek to do.
Thank you for the contribution of the excellent comment.
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Hmmmm I'm not sure if web2 monetization will go that way. I think there needs to be some sort of degree of control so things don't get out of hand. I like how here we can't really be censored and it's more or less the same thing. Would just love to see how hive can innovate to match the trend now. I mean snaps is a good example of that but we need more haha..
Yes I also like hive for all this. I also don't think it's perfect but it can be worked on. Not even sure if there are any web3 social platforms that are on Hives level unless we count steem.
oh ya that's what the shadow government wants. They want people to be unable to think for themselves haha. That's how they can control the world. Only those that know can protect themselves.
This is not something that can be forced. It's hard to change when it's already like a routine. I think people really have to go through a situation where they get that ah ha moment and realize that they are stuck in this loop . It's hard to because that's the comfort zone usually in that loop and to get out of that loop really needs a strong mindset.
I would like to know what happens if Snaps stops doing the comment-rewarder stuff.. I bet in a drop of engagement in an instant.
You can always DV a comment. If you feel the person is spamming just take the reward out and it will fix itself for most people.
In the case of rewards from comment rewarder, I think only a dv from OP (peak.snaps) would prevent it from receiving it.
I believe that only he himself can make this balance, and by adding some additional information to the bot that votes, it could be more 'fair'.
In fact, it is the most efficient short-term measure we have at the moment.
oh didn't know they hve that ;p. I'm not super active but I think what azircon said is right. People can just downvote it which technically we should but I don't like to get into that drama; later it becomes like a downvote war sometimes and it's not worth it unless you're a whale lol. Just hope someone that has more authority take over like those hivewatcher people
I believe that at the moment Snap's rewards are not too out of control, at least not that I have noticed, but I believe that this is the solution, when you see something very out of the curve, make a downvote to balance the rewards.
i think people would be scared to do this at least those that dont have big voting power. like lets say they downvote a whale. that whale can just keep downvote war and destroy them which is sad but I've seen it happen
I strongly believe that perhaps the amount of engagement will decrease, and people who frequent it will start looking for other ways to engage, perhaps by going back to Threads, since little reward is better than none, or by looking for ways to get noticed so they can get upvoted, perhaps by increasing the quality of their Snaps.
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O numero de reputação não significa nada a não ser que um usuário tem mais experiencia com a Hive ou não. Você pode encontrar farmers com reputação 80 fácil =)
Então, ele sozinho apenas não, inclusive há muitas críticas acerca de mudar a maneira como ele é, mas nenhuma ideia saiu do papel. Acredito que o numero da reputação deve ser levado em consideração junto com outros fatores, ele sozinho é uma informação vazia, mas quando aliado a outros parâmetros talvez consiga trazer um recorte interessante.
Vídeo super interessante mano, concordo com tudo o que você disse e principalmente com a parte em que temos que ter cuidado com os números, eles são bons, mas podem errar.
As vezes olhar apenas a quantidade da a impressão de ser um spam ou coisas do tipo, mas tenho certeza que as pessoas com qual eu interajo, sabem que tento sempre criar snaps que sejam legais, divertidos ou informativos, as vezes é apenas o que quero compartilhar mesmo, afinal no fim das contas a Hive é uma rede social e a gente compartilha o que gosta não é?
Quanto as respostas, sempre tento escrever elas na medida certa, expondo os pontos corretos, nem muito curto (que eu também nao gosto) e nem tão grande para nao ficar tão chato, então como de costume o equilíbrio é a perfeição haha.
Eu lembro também que quando os Snaps foram criados, eu já interagia para caramba muito antes de chegar o CR neles, acho que foi umas 2 ou 3 semanas para pensarem nisso, então meu objetivo lá sempre foi engajamento, não comecei a usar o Snaps depois que o CR chegou, comecei desde o seu primeiro dia, então é isso, consciência tranquila e plena que estou fazendo um ótimo trabalho!
Você é fera nas suas análises, um grande abraço!
Valeu pelo comentário irmão, de fato acredito que nós brasileiros sempre buscando o engajamento, acho que muito pela nossa própria essência. Países tropicais geralmente fazem mais interações que países gelados, e dessa forma sempre estamos buscando aumentar nosso ciclo de amizades.
Não seria diferente a 'infestação' de BRs dado o fato de sermos um país de proporções continentais, somos praticamente Alemanha, França, Itália e Espanha em um único país em números de habitantes, então temos que marcar a presença que 4 potencias europeias marcariam.