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That's part of why I won't run a witness or Hive-Engine node unless I owned and controlled the hardware. π π π β¨ π€
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I got confused again with the
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Corrected.
Bjorn already runs both a Hive-Engine and a witness node. π π π β¨ π€
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I have set @savvyplayer as voting proxy, which means that my Hive account automatically "copies" their Hive Witness and Hive Proposal votes. π While I saw them vote for @botlord as Hive Witness some time ago, they might have forgotten to vote for the @botlord #HiveEngine Witness node too. π€π€― !HOPE that this comment tagging them is enough to remind them to vote for the HE Witness too! π€π
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OK, well, yep, it would be good if he saw this comment then. π π π β¨ π€
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I noticed that @savvyplayer has already voted for @botlord as #HiveEngine Witness too, but both of us don't have any WORKERBEE for our votes to be of any weight. π€π€― It's like curating with exactly zero total Hive Power !INDEED! π€―π
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Oh good, and I feel ya, I don't have usable quantities of WORKERBEE yet either. π π π β¨ π€
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I (and @savvyplayer) just got reminded by borniet that having more WORKERBEE tokens will increase the power of our votes !INDEED! π€π€―π€π
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Yep, it's very important when voting for Hive-Engine nodes. π π π β¨ π€
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If someone on Hive got used to getting more Hive Power (which is staked HIVE tokens which is the primary token of the Hive blockchain) to increase the worth of their votes for Hive Witnesses (and Hive Proposals), they might get confused about which #HiveEngine token is necessary for having a larger influence for Hive Engine Witnesses (which presumably is staked BEE tokens which is the primary token of the Hive Engine second-layer blockchain) !INDEED. π€π€―π
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The WORKERBEE requirement for voting on Hive-Engine witnesses is an odd one, and it doesn't really make much sense, but that's how it is, so we just adapt and flow with it. π π π β¨ π€
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At least, Hive Power itself doesn't affect the votes for #HiveEngine Witnesses, which would be weirder if that's the case. π€π§ββοΈπ€―π€
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And it would completely defeat the purpose for WORKERBEE. πππβ¨π€
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I already run both ;-) And a VSC node as well already ;-) lol
Feel free to vote, it runs under the account @botlord ;-)
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I have set @savvyplayer as my proxy for voting for Hive Witness nodes and Hive Funding Proposals, and they have voted for your witness node as well as for your #HiveEngine node. ππ
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Mucho appreciated btw!!!! ;-)
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While @savvyplayer (which is my voting proxy) has voted for the @botlord #HiveEngine Witness node (as well as the primary layer Hive Witness node), both of us have zero WORKERBEE tokens (either liquid or staked), so we only add to the number of votes without increasing your node's ranking on the Hive Engine second-layer network. π€π€―π
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No worries ;-) I already appreciate the support ;-)
And if you or @savvyplayer do get to hold some WORKERBEE (hint! hint!) the vote will have some extra ranking power as well!
I'll just wait here and have a !BEER in the meantime ;-)
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I just said on my previous comment that I and @savvyplayer don't have any WORKERBEE tokens at all, so our votes don't increase your #HiveEngine Witness node's ranking. π€π€― It's also !WEIRD to find out that neither my nor @savvyplayer's Hive Engine wallets ever got "touched" by the WORKERBEE token (in other words, no incoming or outgoing WORKERBEE token transactions at all). π€―ππ
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I know what you said, I read it correctly, and I replied that I appreciate the support, and that "If you or @savvyplayer do get to hold some WORKERBEE", the ranking would improve.
I was expressing a possible future ;-)
It is indeed very well possible that you don't own any WORKERBEE, and it has never touched your wallet. AFAIK, you can only buy them, or receive them. Are they useful? Yes, for mining BEE, and for giving Hive-Engine witness votes ;-)
Owning BEE does come with its own uses btw, if you delegate it to @bee.voter it earns you weekly Hive.
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Thanks for clarifying that you were just expressing a possible future that you !HOPE !INDEED! π€π€ My #SavvyCorrect sometimes gets too literal when understanding text. π€―π
Anyway, I checked the #BeeVoter Hive account and noticed that its last post was more than a year ago, and its comments are automated where it shows that it curates daily only a single Hive account. π€―π
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Really? Haven't checked that recently to be honest :-D As long as I receive the weekly payout for the delegation, I'm not complaining ;-) As soon as that would stop, I would indeed withdraw the BEE and do some other stuff with it.
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One of the things you can do with the BEE that you withdraw delegation from is to unstake it, swap with WORKERBEE, then power it up to increase your #HiveEngine node's ranking for the Witnesses !INDEED! π€ππ€
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That is indeed the plan once the Hive dripping would stop, or when needed to stay in the top 20. However, I donβt have enough yet to make a really big difference. But it keeps growing, and thatβs ok!
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There's the saying that if it feels hard to go forward, just take a break instead of (going back and) quitting. π€π§ββοΈ The same goes for (not Powering Down) Hive Power (as well as staked WORKERBEE on #HiveEngine) here on Hive. π€π€
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I noticed that @tydynrain needs some WORKERBEE tokens too, as he has exactly 0 liquid and 0.01112 staked WORKERBEE on his #HiveEngine wallet as of the time of this comment !INDEED. πΈπ€―π
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I have more WORKERBEE in the BEE:WORKERBEE pool than anywhere else at the moment. π π π β¨ π€
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You were probably referring to your #HiveEngine wallet as the "anywhere else" that isn't the BEE:WORKERBEE liquidity pool on your comment. π
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That is quite perceptive and logical of you. π π π β¨ π€
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I just thought of the possibility that there may be something else apart from liquidity pools and #HiveEngine wallets that you were referring to on your previous comment. π€―π
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While that is sometimes true, it is not in this case. π π π β¨ π€
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I can't think of anywhere where #HiveEngine tokens can reside, apart from Hive Engine wallets themselves, or Hive Engine liquidity pools. π€― There's a @tyndynrain wallet on Hive Engine though that has 20,0001 IDD tokens! π€£π
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Hive-Engine tokens can also reside, and often be staked, on various blockchain game sites, such as Splinterlands. Yep, we shouldn't be allowed to send assets to non-existent accounts. π π π β¨ π€
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If the tokens are on a centralized platform (regardless if it is on your "own account" on that platform), then it can be argued that you don't really hold those tokens, similar to the motto "not your keys, not your coins". π€―
Perhaps the top #HiveEngine Witnesses (including @borniet's Witness node which is currently exactly at the 20th) can decide to prevent the transfer of any Hive Engine token to a non-existent Hive account, then create a fork for it. π
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Yep, that's true indeed, as we saw with the fall of ListNerds.
Well that would be an interesting proposition. Nice, he's going up. π π π β¨ π€
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Some #ListNerds users who have staked !CTP tokens on the ListNerds platform that decided to withdraw their CTP tokens when the platform started to have recurring (and prolonged) downtime noticed that their tokens don't finish unstaking, until the website no longer remained accessible. π€―
It does not necessarily have to be a #HiveEngine Witness who may provide such suggestion. π§ββοΈ It can be the owner of any Hive account (especially those with a lot of Hive Power and/or staked WORKERBEE tokens on Hive Engine). π€
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Yeah, the CTP project ended in a very bad way indeed.
Yep, true. πππβ¨π€
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Indeed, very little people actually own WORKERBEE, as there is not that much obvious value to owning it at first sight. Or the value is created outside the staking (as @tydynrain proves in his next comment ;-) )
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Yep, I'm growing my BEE:WORKERBEE shares every day! π π π β¨ π€
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I try to keep some middle ground between growing my BEE:WORKERBEE shares and my staked WORKERBEE, as I want to be in a more safe spot in the rankings for the Hive Engine witness as well :-)
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It looks like @tydynrain doesn't have to "keep a middle ground" for his WORKERBEE tokens because he himself doesn't run a #HiveEngine Witness node, though I still told him that having more (staked) WORKERBEE tokens can help him support your own Hive Engine Witness node more! π
That's why I'm starting to grow them in the pool. π π π β¨ π€
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Perhaps a good balance is to just stake enough WORKERBEE tokens to keep @borniet's #HiveEngine Witness node at least at Rank 20, then put the rest in WORKERBEE liquidity pools !INDEED. π€―π€
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That's a cool idea, but that would be a huge expenditure for that many WORKERBEE tokens, which is not feasible at the moment. π π π β¨ π€
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Heβs playing it more strategically with his BEE & WORKERBEE ;-)
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I think that both you and @tydynrain are strategic !INDEED, with just slightly different strategies. π€π§ββοΈππ
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.Yep, I certainly understand that. I'm just trying to grow it as much and as quickly as I can, to later be able to stake a good chunk. π π π β¨ π€
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If @borniet can encourage you to stake more WORKERBEE, then your vote on his #HiveEngine Witness will have a greater effect! πΈππ
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I know, that's the whole point in growlng it, along with the BEE it generates. π π π β¨ π€
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That shows that (staked) WORKERBEE has two purposes, one to increase the power of votes for #HiveEngine Witnesses, and one to earn a steady supply of BEE tokens. π That's very similar to Hive Power which helps increase voting power (for curation, Hive Witnesses, and Hive Proposals), as well as a steady supply of additional HP. π€
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Yep, and I need a whole lot of WORKERBEE. It is somewhat similar, just wish that WORKERBEE had as many uses as HP. π π π β¨ π€
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That reminds me of some people on Hive that have found good reasons to Power Down and convert nearly all of their Hive Power (along with their HIVE and HBD tokens) to #HiveEngine tokens. π§ββοΈπ
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Well, while there are some great layer-2 tokens, that's a very imbalanced investment. π π π β¨ π€
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I think that many of them are okay with the (increased) risks associated with investing on #HiveEngine tokens instead of Hive Power (and the more stable HBD, which earns in Savings). π§ββοΈπ€
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Well I would certainly hope so, otherwise they're shooting themselves in the foot. πππβ¨π€
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.Perhaps only people on Hive who operate #HiveEngine Witness nodes and/or those who really like to support other HE nodes know the importance of WORKERBEE tokens !INDEED. π€―π€
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Yes indeed, I suppose so. I must admit I didnβt know about WORKERBEE until I learned about Hive-Engine Witnesses. Then I bought some to support one of those witnesses (Liotes), and now, of course, I do own moreβ¦
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I wonder how often you directly swap the BEE tokens that you receive from your #HiveEngine Witness node (which is exactly at the 20th place by the way) into WORKERBEE tokens. π€
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Currently I swap about 50% of the BEE into WORKERBEE, and 50% I delegate to bee.voter. This then produces Hive, which I power up (or use to buy more WORKERBEE). The idea is to stack up on both HP and WORKERBEE, to solidify the position in the ranks for both the Hive-Engine witness (itβs currently switching between 21-19, I would like to have it more stable on a higher position) and the Hive witness (position 113 there, need to get it to a higher position for sure).
So, slowly but steadily it will grow I hopeβ¦
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It's better if your #HiveEngine Witness node moves just within the 19th and 20th places, so that it can continuously earn 0.39954306 BEE tokens every 15 minutes. ππ€
Your Hive Witness node reaching at least the 20th place is something still far-fetched, hopefully not for too long. π€π€―π
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Indeed, thatβs what I would like with the Hive-Engine Witness, that is constantly in the Top 20. Is it really every 15 minutes? I havenβt checked, I noticed it about 2 or 3 times per hour. Could be 4 as well I guess :-)
The Hive Witness node in the top 20 would be VERY nice indeed, but I do realize that is NOT going to be easyβ¦
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(Roughly) 15 minutes was what I noticed when I checked when and how much your #HiveEngine Witness Hive account was earning using Hive Engine Explorer. π€―π
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Well, I only check the regularity of the earnings, on average it's 3 entries per hour (3 hours ago, 4 hours ago, 5 hours ago), don't really care about the rest of it, mostly if it is still running well and high enough in the rankings :-) I just let it grow as much as possible!
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