HIVE Rewards in Future, Dev talk, HBD Savings, and More .:. Recap of Hive Humpday Hangout SE #13 (February 26, 2025)

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I told you that you should attend these "Special Edition" shows... Now you missed a lot of fun and there is no recording for this type of #HHHLive! It is lost forever, and locked in the brains of those who attended it... 😃 And we had a nice participation and covered many different topics!


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Sometimes, people are too shy to talk, and even if this edition is "freestyle", despite being eager to ask questions, it's hard to start the ball rolling... Luckily, we had a few interesting comments at the announcement post for the show and that served well as a "topic-opener"! Speaking of announcement posts, it's hard to do them for Special Edition shows as there is no specific topic, but if I don't do it, then people won't know if it will be held... The previous time I didn't do the announcement post and we had just a few Hivians... In conclusion, I have to do them... 😃


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So, the first topic was a reflection on the comment by @davideownzall, where he said:

It would be cool to talk about what will happen in the future with the slow cut in hive rewards over the years (I can't find the article but like by 2035 or something rewards for blogging will be tiny)

We discussed that and compared it with BTC, or other blockchains where is a similar situation and you can see the inflation going down... As the scarcity is higher, the token value goes up... Of course, if there are fundamentals around the chain... On the other side, inflation is lower, and fewer rewards are distributed, which means that it is harder to acquire new tokens! A good reminder for those who think that it would be easier to buy tokens in a year or two, or more...

@jza came on the microphone sharing his view on inflation as a part of the "game"... He also shared his view of HIVE as a stablecoin, as it occasionally doesn't follow other cryptos... In the meantime, @felixxx compared HIVE with faucets, as it looks so easy to accumulate tokens nowadays, but that doesn't mean it will be in the future!

He asked a question about the HBD savings APR, so we dwelled into discussion about that too... How it was at 20%, chasing the APR of collapsed LUNA, how it was changed to 15%, and how it can be changed in the future...


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We had a long development talk about many things... Starting with innovation, adding features to the second layer, building apps on top of the chain... How HIVE needs more documentation, if we want to attract mode developers from the outside... Maybe AI can help us with documentation?

@jza shared his experience from other chains where they would record themselves coding stuff, sharing more tutorials, and small scripts... Just short titbits that can show the HIVE potential... @nathalie-s mentioned that @borniet is doing some development on HIVE, so we called him out, but he was busy "developing" spaghetti... 😂 Jokes aside, he has just begun with coding, and we wish him all the luck in that!

Speaking of calling out, when @achim03 appeared in the audience, I had to call him on the mic to share his story about the faucets as we mentioned him at the beginning... He was running some faucets and shared the story with us... How tiny those tokens looked a few years ago and how big some of them grew!

We changed topics many times, going from a talk about Dan Larimer to a talk about surviving some harsh market conditions like the one we have these days... @felixxx even came up with the main "survival" rules:

  1. Only buy things YOU UNDERSTAND
  2. Only sell, when you are sure that you can buy it back for cheaper later

I was free to add an additional rule to these two:

Do not invest more than you can afford to lose...

It is the old one, but I didn't hear it lately and it shouldn't be forgotten!

For the end of the show, @foxkoit promised that he would come in voice when HIVE reached $1! It is now written in the chain, just for the record! 😃


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There is no recording of these Special Edition shows, but if you would like to participate, you are always welcome to come and have fun with us... Nobody is forced to talk, so even if you are shy and quiet, you can listen and write in the chat!

This time we had 20 participants (including myself)... Thanks, @achim03, @akrros, @borniet, @bulkathos, @duskobgd, @felixxx, @foxkoit, @incublus, @jishan5, @jza, @melinda010100, @mypathtofire, @nathalie-s, @osomar357, @palomap3, @pea07, @sacra97, @sahi1, and @seckorama! Thanks everyone for participating!!!


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Thank you, guys and girls, once again! As a sign of appreciation, I will send some LEN tokens to all participants of the live show! You can pair them with LENM tokens, add liquidity to the diesel pool, and earn rewards! If you want to learn more about the project behind it, check out the @liotes account or visit the Liotes website... Of course, if you are not interested in it, you can sell tokens on the Hive-Engine market...

To encourage more people to come on the mic, I have sent an additional 100 Ecency POINTS to people who shared their thoughts in voice with us (this time we had 4 participants in voice)! So POINTS are going to @felixxx, @jza, @achim03, and @borniet!

Special thanks goes to @melinda010100 and @good-karma for providing the space for the event!

Thank you for your time,
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Check out these links to the previous shows:

Episode NumberTitleLink
39Apis Hive! What It Is, How It Works? Talk with @LivingUKTaiwanLink
38Curation, Post Value, Dust, Gaming, etc.Link
37Hive and Crypto Plans For 2025 and Beyond!Link
36Hive Creator Days, Graz, AT, and Hive Meetups talk with @tibfox!Link
SE12Why HIVE Pumped? 3Speak or YouTube? SEO Talk and moreLink
SE11Pump and Dump Discussion, Hive is an Opportunity Creator, etc.Link
35(Im)Balance Between Crypto and FiatLink
SE10ValuePlan Discussion, Funding Startups, Games on Hive, etc.Link
34The Magical Kingdom! Talk with @hallmann!Link
33How Do YOU Vote For Hive Witnesses?Link
32To Delegate HivePower or Not?Link
SE093Speak issues and Discussion, Gambling Apps on Hive, Taxes, etc.Link
31Quiz Time!!! - HHHLive 1st AnniversaryLink
30How HIVE Changes LivesLink
29HiveFest9, Impressions by @ninaeatshere, @achim03, and othersLink
28How Do We Spend Our Crypto?Link
SE08The Gang is Back, Breaking the LimitsLink
SE07Ecency Waves, HivePower, Splinterlands, HiveFest, LPs, and more!Link
27How Hive Proposals Work?Link
26Content Creation ExperiencesLink
SE06Education, Traveling Ecency Spoilers, Hive elephants...Link
25Why Did the Hive Price Drop?Link
24What Do We Expect From Hive and Crypto!Link
23Aachen Meetup and WorldMapPin Talk With @detlev!Link
SE05Usernames Origins, Age, Early Retirement, Crypto Portfolio, and more...Link
22Helping Hive to ThriveLink
21Make Yourself Uncomfortable (on Hive!)Link
20First Excursions Out of the Comfort ZoneLink
SE04BuzzParty Impressions, Weekly Recap, BonfireLink
19Ways To Buy/Sell Hive!Link
SE03Foods, Crypto Research, Education, PredictionsLink
18Best Tools For Content CreationLink
17Consistency and Adding ValueLink
SE02After Show ShowLink
16CBRS Philanthropy Chat With @minigunner!Link
15Profit Taking PlanningLink
14Ecency/Hive Chat With @good-karma!Link
SE01Relaxed "Exclusive" SessionLink
13Writer's Block and How To Overcome ItLink
12Hive-Engine TokensLink
11Hive Guidelines for NewbiesLink
10NY Resolutions and Creating Hive GoalsLink
9How Was Your (HIVE) 2023?Link
8Presenta tu comunidad - ES/EN Show! - Part 2Link
7Present Your Community - Part 1Link
6How to Start on Hive?Link
5Do You Upvote Quality Posts?Link
4Genuine? Authentic? To be or not to be?Link
3Hive Power, HP Delegation, HivePUD...Link
2Hive Meetups, HiveFest, HiveBeeConLink
1Pilot Episode (Aired 2023-10-18) - The VisionLink


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But what happens when HIVE no longer move on one dollar? :)) And 70 cent was the top . 🫣🫣🫣

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It's always a gamble of course, no certainty ever... but I'm also hoping for >1$ Hive, or even more... I think it has the possibility, but maybe not just like that, it would require some stabilizations and additions as well.
!HOPE
!PIZZA
!INDEED
!ALIVE
!BBH

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NOthing changes... You will not speak in the show like you didn't speak until now... 😂

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It sounds like an interesting show. The inflation issue is an interesting issue for Hive. I guess we should just continue to add to our stacks before the scarcity happens.

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I wouldn't say it's an issue... It would be if inflation would grow... 😃
I like it as it is and I hope it will not be changed...

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Oh I'm glad I gave some idea for a discussion 😊

Hbd apr can be changed even to 0% if top20 witnesses sets that I think

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Indeed, it could... But it could also be set to 35%
The reason they lowered it from 20 to 15% is in order to not attract people who only use Hive as a high interest savings account, without bringing anything useful to the blockchain. They have a point there, although I liked the 20% as well ;-)
!HOPE
!PIZZA
!INDEED
!ALIVE
!BBH

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Eheh 20% was a very nice deal 😅

!PIZZA

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You bet!!! I've spent about 2 years putting every HBD I earned into savings, and all Hive in HP, the 20% was moooooore than nice :-D lol
Sigh... I miss those days :-D
!HOPE
!PIZZA
!INDEED
!ALIVE
!BBH

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To avoid that ppl add Hive to the HBD savings forsavings only is that you can add only rewarded Hive to the savings 😉

!BBH
!PIZZA

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That would indeed be quite an effective strategy :-D
But would you like it? I wouldn't :-)
Maybe there would be a way to tie it to the HP for instance, so that you can only have 10% of your HP worth in your HBD savings or something like that.
!STRIDE
!LOLZ
!WEIRD
!DOOK
!MMB
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You just got DOOKed!
@borniet thinks your content is the shit.
They have 12/40 DOOK left to drop today.
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I guess you wouldn’t have any problems with that. That’s the way I add HBD to savings right now 💪
But there might be other solutions as well for sure.
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For sure indeed!
And it is always good to bring it up and start thinking about other solutions as well...
!DIY
!HOPE
!PIZZA
!INDEED
!ALIVE
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@borniet just sent you a DIY token as a little appreciation for your comment dear @herman-german! Feel free to multiply it by sending someone else !DIY in a comment :) You can do that x times a day depending on your balance so:

Don't be shy - share some DIY!

You can query your personal balance by !DIYSTATS

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Thanks for that comment... It was a nice show Kickstarter...
It can be changed, but I wouldn't go higher as it is... We will see... The "big boys" will decide... 😃

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Haha yea, I'm voting for good witnesses with 20% apr proposed maintime 😅

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Lots of interesting topics. If Hive becomes more scarce that should help improve its price and attract more attention from the global community.

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It should work like that... And, tbh, I would like to see happening... I suppose, everyone would... 😃

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(Edited)

PIZZA!
Hive.Pizza upvoted this post.

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Thank you for this great recap of the show! Was fun rereading it, as I missed parts due to Developing Spaghetti ;-)
Small correction (mostly for my ego :-D ): I've been in software development for decades already, but only just started developing on Hive :-) And a little more on the what: bots :-) BBHBot, Alive Bot, Gifu Bot, Indeedly Bot ;-)
!HOPE
!PIZZA
!INDEED
!ALIVE
!BBH

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Oh, so you are the creator of those bots? Interesting...
At least I know where to ask if we want to do something similar on Liotes... 😉

Thanks for eating Spaghetti in live! 😂

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lol!!! You're welcome! :-) Not sure yet what I'll be making and eating during next show ;-) (which is actually the reason why I never attended before, bad timing ;-) )
Always welcome if you want a similar bot for Liotes ;-) I'm constantly trying out new things and adding new features to these bots, and am also always open to requests for new stuff :-)
Do you like these bots as they currently are?

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To be honest, not really... I was using some of the first bots back in the days, PIZZA and WINE mostly, but when everyone began to run them, it became very oversaturated and spammy... So, I stopped using them...

I do understand the message that they transmit, despite most of them going to zero, but seeing comments only calling these bots inside the body looks ugly...

But, on the other side, maybe if some of them would keep the value and be used properly (in addition to the real comment, not just the call), maybe it could work out... Challenge? 😃

Also, I didn't follow any of these bots (and tokens) recently, so can't judge which one is good or bad... Is there any that is doing fairly well? That you could say that it is different?

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Totally agree on the spamminess of those bots! Which is why I very soon converted from the bots posting a comment on each call, to posting a daily summary, waaaaay less clutter like this.=
Also agree on the comments with nothing but botcalls. I have some followers that do that on each post, and I reply to them in the same manner, but there is very little “social” about that of course :-D
The idea behind the bots is to be able to use them for specific uses, for instance @thestrider is intended to reward physical activity, mostly running/walking.
The !HOPE bot is meant in a similar way as the HUG and LUV bots, to give a sign of hope, or reward signs of hope.
But the master of all puppets/bots, is the mmbbot !MMB which is not yet finished though. The idea is Maximum Mutual Benefit, and make the token behind it an income token, so hopefully with a lot of value to its holders, and this in many ways: holding the tokens will earn you upvotes, delegation rewards, staking rewards, …
And all the others would sit under the MMB umbrella, and they would complement the earning potential of the MMB token (and have their own earnings as well).

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Hmmm... Your long reply and passion about these bots made me think... Would you like to come to one of the future #HHHLive shows as a "special guest" and talk about bots? Explain how they work, purpose, etc...

I think it could be an interesting and educational topic for others...

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Hmmm... Tempting... but I don't like talking :-D lol
Not sure if you believe that :-D
But yeah, could be a nice idea indeed! So let's go! (but not next week yet :-D )
!STRIDE
!LOLZ
!WEIRD
!DOOK
!MMB
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You just got DOOKed!
@borniet thinks your content is the shit.
They have 23/40 DOOK left to drop today.
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Learn all about this shit in the toilet paper! 💩

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But yeah, could be a nice idea indeed! So let's go! (but not next week yet :-D )

Hahahaah... Okay... I will put you on my list... But, if you have free time the week after, you can always message me, and we will arrange something... 😉

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Sounds like a plan!!! (But not yet on the timing 😂😂😂)
We’ll keep in touch, for sure! 👍🏻😉

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!ALIVE
!BBH
!STRIDE
!LOLZ

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For the end of the show, @foxkoit promised that he would come in voice when HIVE reached $1! It is now written in the chain, just for the record!

Looking forward to this!!! Haha. Because it will happen for sure! (NFA lol)

😂

!LUV

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We will see if it would or not, but it would be an ice-breaker for sure! 😂

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