RE: The Walk, The Stumble, The Walk
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Yes, I'm a Protestant. I protest the church, and believe most ills done in the name of God, come directly from the Catholic church. Not the people, but the system
Since the 1960's I have been surrounded by several denominations of Protestantism. Care to share what denomination you follow? I am married to a protectant. !LOLZ
I just have big issues with how the church has operated since day one.
Have you considered that a lot of #TooFuckeh shit is a direct result of a business transaction. Without placing blame, which is not my style, I am reminded of what I have leaned about the treatment of Aboriginal Peoples in North America. In particular, Truth and Reconciliation.
https://www.cccb.ca/indigenous-peoples/resources/indian-residential-schools-truth-reconciliation-commission/
It is hard for me to imagine that the whole community was not aware of what was being done. And, the whole community could not have been followers of just the Catholic Church. People need to speak out and get motivated when they see obvious wrong.
As an observer, I can see many situations where wrong is being committed by a church organization. It is not unique to one religious following.
I don't follow a particular church but I do know my history and I am well aware of many people and organizations that cross my fundamental core values. Don't Lie, Don't Cheat and Don't Steal. The 4th D of @FJism core value belief system is Do Spin. If your a human, your character can easily be be defined just by observing your spin or wobble and sometimes crashes. One doesn't have to look to deep to see incipient problems.
sola scriptura
Well, its my nature to adopt standards along my journey. And, knowing a bit about a few Bodies of Knowledges existing in our world today; committing to an old set of books would be like committing to a particular type of church.
We are in constant war with spiritualism
I don't support wars so I cannot take offense to spirituality as you suggest. To me, love is spiritual. If one lies to me, that would be negative energy received and could be called bad spirits. I suppose. Hmm, what would posses one to lie to me.
God forbids any kind of spiritualism in any form.
Well, that is not what I have experienced. This is why I asked the question about your specific version of Christianity. I saw great change in the Catholic Church in my own lifetime and I expect to see more coming now that Leo XIV is the Pope. A !LEO at that so I will likely take advantage of the low price for the token.
Sometimes things unfold like it was meant to be and the returns are beyond expectation. A manifestation. But, you don't know that until you experienced a spiritual connection. This is where synergy is formed.
May the spirit of God be with you as in me.
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Elongate could be really drawn out.
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Unapologetically, I'm a Seventh Day Adventist.
Which church did most of the atrocities? The good ol' Roman Catholic church. Again, it's never the people....Catholics are fantastic people. I've met amazing guys and gals on the chain here that follow the church.
But to deny it's history, and the atrocities it's done in the name of God is plain ignorant.
I agree 100000% but you need to break it down now and ask...Where does love come from? 1 John 4:8 gives you the answer. God is love :)
I look at it like, we're all fallen. We all have a sinful nature. If you hold grudges and dont forgive, you are going against what Christ said. So for me, I fail every day, but I'm redeemed because of Him. So I strive to get better, every day.
Appreciate the dialogue.
It was not just Catholic church goers that were sinners. Not sure why you keep saying you know some good Catholic people.
Like today, some people support Israel genocide of Palestinians while others deny there is a genocidal process occurring. There is no shortage of sinners. These sinners are not just followers of the Catholic Church. I am not aware of any award for the church that host fewer sinners.
It comes from a spiritual connection when you are free of hate and judgement.
Careful you don't get caught in an endless loop. Best not to sin in the first place. !LOLZ
Thank you for the exchange. I do appreciate learning from exploring differing perspective.
Oh 100% there are sinners in every church. A church should be filled with sinners, Christ didn't come for the righteous but sinners to repentance!
Which like you said, the goal is always...To not sin. But that's a tall task, almost like we needed an example and Savior to do it and show us the way. Which is why I follow Christ.
For sure, I'll talk anyone's ear off about my belief if they want lol. But I'll never push it on people.
I find it interesting that Jesus spoke of building a "church" for followers in a spiritual sense and what has unfolded is much different than his teachings.
When a bunch of sinners hangout together and follow another sinner that claims to be Christians it is not difficult to see that some evil is in the works.
Take Trump for example. The fact this sinner and felon became President of USA, twice, is a strong indicator of corruption in a few "churches". I place churches in quotes to include other gathering places and not just followers of Christianity. So, I can appreciate your disdain for Catholic Church and hope you have a good understanding of sins committed under the umbrella of other churches.
There is a need for more honesty everywhere. All evil doings are rooted in dishonesty. With more honesty we can break the cycle that some sinners get caught into; as you say, it's a tall task. But doable. Sinners need “a change of thinking.”, ie Repentance. Here lies the problem, words are being said (prayer) but the actions are contradictory to the understanding of repentance. When we have many repeat offenders you have to take a closer look at systemic problems in the system.
Penitentiaries are a booming business in USA. This is because some capitalist sinners have converted repentance into a profit making opportunity.
We are in a period where we may see the destruction of another capitalistic empire. I see Amsterdam as the first capitalistic empire that collapsed, the British empire took the baton and also failed and now USA is the third empire that could very well collapse because of the greed of sinners.
I am sadden to see the destruction and harm caused by sinners but I am also motivated to creating opportunities for non-sinners. Maybe Hive blockchain is becoming my church. !LOLZ
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I could bore you to death with a huge study on Revelation...Where we can see the dragon, the beast and the false prophet falling in the end times.
Dragon = Satan
Beast = Roman Catholic Church / Papacy
False Prophet = Protestant America / Christian Conservatives
The bible literally says that people will start killing believers in Christ, thinking they are working for Christ...aka, the right wing fundamentalists in America.
I see that the Truth and Reconciliation link I provided is not loading.
The important part in the report is to recognize that the report also documented that the Anglican, Presbyterian, United, and Roman Catholic Churches were all involved in the system, which aimed to assimilate Indigenous children.
Also important, the atrocities also happened in USA. Canada is much more proactive in addressing reconciliation. However, they are still slow with corrective action that must be taken.
The majority of Christians in USA are Protestants. I mention this so readers don't overlook that the Catholic Church is not the only organization that has caused and continue to cause hurt for Indigenous peoples.
Right and I agree...But they are all daughters of the harlot (Catholic church)
It's called the mother church after all :)
Just so you know, I am not anti-anything. That would be #TooFuckeh in my world. !LOLZ
https://www.catholic.com/tract/hunting-the-whore-of-babylon
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That article even admits they meet the characteristics lol At least they are honest about it. They do have some ripe claims in the Catechism as well.
Here's some fun info:
https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4997/t/the-mark-of-the-beast
I don't know what you mean by that
I'll take a look at the link you provided. Is it going to take me into a rabbit hole? !LOLZ
Rabbit hole for sure!!!
Look at that. I learnt something new already. I'll check the org some more later. I need to mentally prepare myself after the initial scan. lol #FUN info for sure.
Yeah make sure you ask an Adventist what we believe, instead of what the internet. I was baptized Adventist about a decade ago. Best decision of my life :)
Nothing wrong with the internet, is there? lol And I can always ask you.
lol oh no doubt. everything is true online!!