Bears at the Door: A Week of Fear in the Markets
This week felt like a mood swing you could measure with a seismograph.
Bitcoin down to 84k. HIVE slumping to 0.101. Equities wobbling in sympathy.
I think everything was lower, but I'm not chasing the low on the chart. Just going with what I see on the 1 day chart.
The sentiment? A wall of red. Extreme fear in crypto. Extreme fear in the stock market.

The bears aren’t just sniffing around; they’ve spent most of the week making themselves comfortable. The question is whether this is a temporary visit or the start of a longer, colder season.
The Sentiment Picture: Pure Fear
The Fear & Greed Index is not a predictive tool, but it is an emotional barometer, and right now, the reading is unmistakable:


People are pulling back across the board, not because of a specific event, but because the atmosphere has shifted. Risk appetite evaporates and everyone freezes like a deer in the headlights, desperately wondering if they should get out now before things fall more.
Looks bad. But does it look worse than it actually is?
Are We Officially in a Bear Market?
Structurally, no.
A true bear market builds through a sequence of lower highs and lower lows, and we don’t have that yet. Yet. BTC dropping to 84k looks bad, but historically Bitcoin has had far uglier corrections while still remaining firmly mid-bull.
HIVE’s 0.101, on the other hand, is disappointing, but HIVE behaves differently from BTC. It tends to sink slowly and rise violently. When sentiment flips, HIVE often jumps harder than it fell. At least I will keep telling myself this. Remember remember, $3 HIVE in November! (It's almost exactly 4 years since that jump)
So it feels like a bear, but technically, not quite yet.
The 4-Year BTC Cycle Question
Now comes the uncomfortable part.
If the classic 4-year Bitcoin cycle still holds, the timing lines up almost too perfectly:
the “bull period” ends right now. Almost to the week.
Historically the pattern goes like this:
- Halving → explosive bull run
- Post-bull cooling → sharp drawdowns
- Drift downward or sideways for a year
- Slow recovery into the next halving
- Repeat
Under that script, this week fits the start of the cooling phase. But... here’s the wrinkle:
Wall Street is now balls-deep in Bitcoin.
With ETFs, institutional exposure, automated risk models, and volatility harvesting strategies, the BTC market is no longer the small investor-dominated organism it was in 2012, 2016, or even 2020.
So the real question is: Does the old pattern survive institutionalization?
Institutions don’t behave like retail. They buy dips systematically, not emotionally. They arbitrage. They rebalance. They hedge. They don’t panic-sell the way normal traders do. Michael Saylor is a great example of this. Ignore the price and keep on with business as usual.
Which means the classic 4-year rhythm might stretch, compress, or even dissolve completely. If the old cycle really is dead, then this downturn is just another correction, not a new epoch. But...ff the cycle survives, this week could well mark the opening act of another long winter.
But you know, this is crypto: It could go either way. Flip a coin.
Where Metal Fits into This Mess
Gold and silver do what they always do: move slowly and with total disregard for crypto drama. They are the emotional opposite of Bitcoin. Metal doesn’t moon; it simply persists. Gold has climbed sharply this year on persistent inflation fears, and silver looks like it may finally be breaking out of its long-standing range for the same reasons. (A long-standing range that many believe has been due to intense manipulation, manipulation that it may finally be breaking out of.)
This week, both have been moving sideways as they watch what the other markets are doing. If Bitcoin is entering a real cooling period, metals may become worth watching as stability anchors. Gold is near an incredible $4100, silver around $50, and both have shown a level of resilience that crypto hasn’t matched this month. If the powers that be can't regain control of silver, we could see it pop up before the end of the year. $60? $70? I've even seen people calling for $100, but that seems more wishful thinking, at least for now.
So What Happens Next?
If this we hit a Santa rally or something and fear unwinds next week, Bitcoin’s path back to 90k will be quick—BTC tends to snap upward far more violently than it bleeds downward. But if the fear compounds, we could see the market start talking itself into a full cycle reversal, which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
So which is it? Do we see signs that this fall was just a normal correction and it starts to recover, or does it continue to bleed down into the 70s and we enter a new 4-year cycle winter.
The market hasn’t answered yet.
What’s your take? Are we at the opening bell of a new bear season, or is this another dramatic shakeout before everything rips upward again?
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But I sold out another $15,000 CAD out of my Retirement account equities position into cash yesterday morning. I deny having triggered today's sell off. It's not my fault.
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I like to think that this is the case. We are letting go of the 4 year cycle. Next year is going to be huge for Bitcoin. 🤞
I don't know. But let's hope!
It's definitely a coin flip at this point. I think the 4 year cycle might be broken but the probability of that it's not more than 50% in my view. Hopefully, the long winter wouldn't be as severe since the summer wasn't that spectacular.
4 year cycle is not broken at all. It’s literally fully in tact. For alts no, they finally stopped blindly following, I just mean Bitcoin action is right on point. We were never going to from three perfect 4 year cycles to the next being broken. We will see a transition first for a cycle or two where some details change and transition. I suppose alts not following Bitcoin could be one of details but strictly talking Bitcoin it looks like timing just moved by 6 weeks or so. It’s a coin flip if Bitcoin topped at 126K or one last leg up next few months but besides a slightly early or slightly late top everything is pretty much opposite of broken. Strictly talking Bitcoin.
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Yes, I think over time the effects of the 4 year cycle will be less noticeable, alts may also not be strictly tied to the price movements of BTC anymore or maybe BTC establishing itself as a macro asset that gets influenced based on the happenings of the macro environment, which makes it a reflexive kind on risk-on assets spectrum.
The bear low next 18 months or so will definitely be more than 50% from top. We are already down 33% in 7 weeks.
How about more that 75%? Could it also be that after the 33% drop or so, a lower high will first form and then a drop from that high to roughly 50% marking a bottom?
Just thinking out loud here, markets are always unpredictable.
Possibly. 75% seems high to me but everybody’s saying that. We did these last cycles and the most recent we were over a trillion cap & still went from 69K to 15K which is in that wheel house. So yeah 75% definitely possible, many think due to mass market holders and instruments it won’t go that low but we did last time and that was already in trillion cap area. So possible. If we repeat last time we’d hit about 30K if 126K was top in a 75%ish move. I think exact bottom is the impossible to predict. The top being in prediction is easier because it’s using a timeline that’s been repeated over & over but if u asked me 6 months ago to predict number I’d say no clue. And obviously if we do get another leg up do the math from whatever that number is. I would guess we go below 50K for next bear bottom regardless though. But we’ll see. I buy some twice a month no matter the price. I just reduce the $ amount when it’s over 100K. But I dollar cost average always! !LADY !PIZZA !ALIVE
Yes, I think that's the name of the game across a longer time frame, DCA during downtrends and selling a bit during uptrends to lock in some profits. I've not been fairly consistent with it but it seems opportunities to buy cheaper are on the horizon. I'd make sure to capitalize on those :)
I’m surprised you never comment on any of my posts…
Honestly, I haven't been commenting on any posts for the past few months. Real life has gotten so crazy busy that it's all I can do to make my own posts and sometimes reply to the comments.
That said, I'll try to do better, man, and comment on your posts sometimes.
On the cycle, and I love ur taking about it!
So I keep hearing bitcoin’s say the cycle is dead. Bitcoin will be higher in a year, not a chance!
We may see a transition where this 4th cycle the timing is a little off instead of November/December when the top has always been, I’d say it’s 50/50 we topped at 126K early October or I could see too be a few months late at max and one last leg up to 130K - 145K or so. Definitely not 200K!
The cycle may change a bit but those saying it doesn’t exist are just Bitcoin maxis who are being fools. I’m basically a Bitcoin maxi who just happens to like Hive too, but even though my Bitcoin is worth more then my apartment by almost double, I still can’t stand the maxis who just make shit up. There’s no evidence the cycle structure will just end randomly due to some big investment firms having BTC instruments! Maybe we reducing % of moves but after dumping from 126K to 80K in 7.5 weeks it sure doesn’t seem like it to me! Regardless if that was top or one last leg up , I’m seeing the cycle is in exact form! We moved 35% this move, I believe we will make a deep over 50% low easily in 2026/2027. As much as I love Bitcoin, the maxis who do podcasts and stuff just seem to only look at best dream case scenarios. “Super Cycle” 🤪
“Cycles over”🤪
Truth is clear, we will do what we always did, drop 60% or so from top in bear market. 60% is a reduction from last time 69K - 15K.
Also the super cycle crap, As a market cap gets bigger it won’t keep going hyper upwards. I’m so sick of the maxis saying Super Cycle! One million in 2025 is certain! Nope , we decline % moves every cycle because it’s harder to double after every time. 69K-126K isn’t a bad move top 2 top
But yes it’s heavily reduced. At trillions cap that is normal. I did think an even double at 138K - 145K would be top, after we did 20K - 69K prior cycles back comparison, & 2013-2017 the $1200 - 20K…. It’s never going to hyper growth again at this size.
Sorry I just listened to a podcast of a maxi saying all these things and it’s so annoying, I know I went off topic to ur post but kept it in Bitcoin 😅
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Yeah I'm pretty much with you. All the maxis calling for 200k, 500k, 1 gajillion, they are either trying to mislead or they are insane. Now that Wall Street is so far in, I can see the volatility being reduced. No more huge drops (or huge runs). That would make some degree of sense. But any predictions of no more cycles or tremendous jumps are just dreaming.
You left out the Maxis favorite thing to say!
“But but this time it will be Super Cycle!!!
Just like 2013 man” 🤪
Funny thing is I’m team Bitcoin
But these guys annoy me endlessly!
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I'm totally with you, Gene. I love BTC and will stay in it. But I hate these people who just want to bend reality to make it seem flawless. I'm like "BTC is great, but c'mon, let's be realistic"
I believe we won’t see a classic crypto Winter anymore with BTC dropping -80% and grinds for 1-2 years. My base case is a max. -50% decline maybe we even stop before the 74k and get back up. We will see. But ETF buyers are conditioned to start buying once there is a -30% decline.
Or the ETF’s get funds pulled by normies & sell sell sell. 👀
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I agree in the fact that the four year cycles seem to have ended now with institutional money in to crypto more and more, I don't think the bull cycle is over... I bought the dip (on ETH) and waiting for the recovery after fear slowly goes away.
They have not ended at all. Bitcoin is right on schedule with matching past 3 cycles. What are u seeing to think cycle is just magically done? Not a chance. For small alt coins ? Yes and I even tried warning people alt season would be canceled besides a few top tier. But Bitcoin cycle is right on schedule exactly.
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ETH will not make another ATH this cycle.
My trade now on ETH is just a relatively short term spot trade but I also hold more ETH for long term, I think it might surprise you where it will go after Btc blasts through 200k, slows down and money starts to flow in to other assets
Bitcoin isn’t going to 200K this cycle. We have a chance at one last leg up and it won’t be above 150K. Now though I’d guess the top is in at 126K, gone it 60/40 odds, but cycle still fully in play, if we don’t get a leg up by feb or if we go below 70K earlier , it’s quite obvious the top was in at 126K. ones thing is certain though, 200K will break but not this cycle. Late 2028- early 2030 area.
The reason I say even if we get a December or Jan let up higher it won’t be 200K is because it’s quite obvious. We will not break the October high by 50% or so In this drying up market. 150K possible if we do see a last leg up.
I know we haven’t interacted b4 so I might sound cocky or something. Totally not, I simply have predicted crypto market exactly since 2020. Check out any of my 2024 market vlogs here on Hive, I said Hive was king to dime even while Bitcoin well above 2021 highs around 100K , and that alt season would be canceled , that call got me a lot of hate here on Hive but I call it like I see it! I said the big top tiers would likely barely break ATH’s but many alt coins would move down in bitcoin bull market this time. Unfortunately for me people don’t like truth, they like boom boom up up up talk only 🤣. But thanks to my conviction, I sold 20K Hive in January for .50 cents and bought a bunch back last weeks for .1025 cents 😁
Feel free to scroll back to January to see me powering down and moving funds off chain when we were above .40 and did two power downs above .57. It’s all recorded on chain. I’m not magic, I just look and look and spot trends and look daily since 2013 and picked up patterns. 2021 was peak all sky coins go up with Bitcoin and the signal of ridiculous was clear calling it last cycle that would happen for a majority of them. A few exceptions but overall alt coins didn’t participate. The ones that did largely didn’t touch ATH but did go above 2022 bottom, unfortunately Hive was obviously not going to be one of them.
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Wow what a great reply, you did well when you were correct 👌with institutional money coming in more and more and countries starting to make strategic BTC reserves 1 million is a question of time also because the USD keeps getting printed more and more so the run for hard assets will get bigger.
Truth is, me being spot on for a few years could just me I’m due for a loosing streak 🤣
But I think the argument for the cycle system totally ending due to these large scale organizations holding and offering instruments in bitcoin, is just as much a risk because some of them collapsing can be the next cycles FTX or MT Gox excuse to dump. Micro Strategy for example. I’m not predicting it fails anytime soon, just saying it could be used to go other way too. We shall see but I’m betting we definitely see the 4 year cycle continue and will see some changes say timing wise or other details and we would need to see a cycle have smaller changes like a transition before declaring no more cycles as we knew them 2009-2025 or maybe 2009-2022 if this bull year does change, but so far Bitcoin is spot on following cycle structure. The 2022 bottom came 12 months after top instead of 18 months like two previous cycles , likely FTX blowing up moved that sooner and it wasn’t a big cycle change but even if so it would be a timing change not a major break down in cycle all together.
I appreciate your takes! I look forward to chatting and seeing how it all goes down! But I believe we definitely see bitcoin go to 50K’s during 2026/2027. Maybe even 40K’s keeping with previous cycle bear markets but maybe less big % wise, like 60% instead of 75% or 80%. We shall see 👍
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I don't think the traditional cycle can be trusted anymore. It might be lining up right now, but I think where we go from here is uncharted territory.
It's all uncharted territory. We like to try to predict the future by looking at patterns of the past, but it's all just guesses. I lean towards thinking the cycle still has some influence because we are predicting human behavior, not "the market", and humans are superstitious and believe in patterns. But yeah, who knows!
Yeah, that is a good point. I think things have gotten moved a bit due to all the things that people weren't anticipating. I guess we just wait and see. Probably best that you and I still have day jobs!
I should have gotten back to you yesterday on this one, but just checked BTC this morning and we're up to $87K. Maybe the bears will stay away for a bit? It's anybody's guess at this point. Hopefully Hive will see a bit of a recovery as well!
I don't know. Even if it is a bear, we might see it bouncing back to 90k, even 100k, but then back down again. We will see! It's all a coin flip right now, eh?
HIVE... HIVE... HIVE... it'd be nice if we saw any kind of life. I suppose the 10 cent floor has been holding, so maybe we should be thankful for the little things.
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