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I'm not sure I entirely understand what's being asked here, but I think you're wondering if someone on nostr can zap to the v4v wallet. My understanding is this:
-no, zaps are simply sats between two wallets that are linked to a nostr client. The zap just handles the send/receive under the table. Someone on nostr couldn't do that to Hive; there's no zap button on Hive.
-I thought you could send "keepsats" from any lightning network wallet to v4v (not sure what keepsats are exactly, my guess is sats held in escrow by 4v4). But, my test failed using coinos.io and cashu.me to [email protected] It seemed to pick up you and your avatar, but just kept spinning when I hit send. Maybe the QR code would work (though I'm not sure they are persistent). Share your v4v QR and I'll try again that way.
@savvytester wants to know if a V4V wallet can be used as the Lightning Wallet for receiving #Nostr zaps, so that they can help assist @tydynrain in properly setting up an LN wallet for Nostr to start receiving zaps there. 🤯
I think that technically, someone could implement "zap on Hive" for tipping Bitcoin Lightning anywhere (particularly on posts and comments) by creating an app for it (either as a standalone app, or building on top of other platforms such as V4V). 🤓
Anyway, I wonder what would happen if you tried to send sats to
[email protected]instead of[email protected](if you haven't already). 😅!WEIRD !INDEED !HOPE !PIZZA !HUG
If it works, the @sats.v4v.app keeps the sats in the V4V wallet, while the @v4v.app sends them directly to your Hive wallet. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I'll ask @savvytester to put some sats on their V4V wallet to start testing (since they really love testing !INDEED), though with a low amount of HIVE (or HBD) to put there, they might lose a lot in fees, so they might not be able to test it right away. 🤓🤯😅
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That sounds great, and also very appropriate. It uses the lightning network, which is designed to be able to send small amounts of sats. I look forward to hearing how it goes, whenever it is tested. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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@crrdlx tried to send sats from his custodial Lightning Wallet to @savvytester's (also) custodial V4V wallet which is [email protected], but failed. 🤯 His attempt to send sats and his long comment there is appreciated. 🤗
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Hrmmm...well that's not very encouraging. It's good to know, though. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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@crrdlx explained on his long comment that "zaps" work only between Lightning Wallets that are linked to #Nostr "accounts". 🤯
At least, he tried to "zap" a "Hive Lightning" wallet (V4V) for @savvytester even if it is unlikely to be successful. 🤗
Well, it makes sense, but it is also makes it more inconvenient for my own purposes. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Perhaps just withdraw the sats on your #Nostr wallet to your own Lightning Node (LN) wallet (which I think some Nostr wallets would easily support) first, then send them to your Hive account (via V4V). 🤓
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I don't know if I feel like going through the hassle of making sure that my lightning node is online. I'd also have to pay a fee to open a channel to other nodes. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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What I mean with "your own Lightning Node wallet" is the wallet (even custodial ones such as on V4V) that you will use to spend or convert the sats that you accumulated on your #Nostr wallet. 🤯 Paying a fee is just one-time for a given period of time (such as 30 days), then sending sats between them has a very low fixed fee (down to just 1 sat per transaction). 🤓
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OK, I understand. I still think that Hive is so much better in this regard. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I can think of the following as a quick (and likely incomplete) summary of the advantages regarding earnings on Hive and on #Nostr. 🤓
Hive 🐝
Nostr 🐦
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That's a nice run down, and it definitely look like Hive wins. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I think that someone who likes a "true coin" that isn't just a token (not necessarily a "Bitcoin maxi") and/or does not like flagging though would still very likely flock to #Nostr though despite the advantages of Hive. 🧘♂️🤓
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See, that's a curious thing, because a coin is produced directly by the blockchain, while a token is created with certain parameters by an account, so by that definition HIVE and HBD are both coins, not tokens. All the tokens in layer 2 are truly tokens, though. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I wonder then why HIVE and HBD are called "tokens" though !INSTEAD of "coins". 🤯 #PeakD, #Ecency, and most popular Hive frontends call them "tokens". 😅
Anyway, I think that a cryptocurrency "coin" in general is something that can't be gone (whether or not it can be sent to the corresponding @null account depending on the blockchain), while "tokens" can be created arbitrarily by its issuer, and can also disappear (such as when someone converts or swaps between HIVE and HBD, where a bit of the tokens are lost for every transaction). 🤯🤯🤓
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I've been asking myself that question since I got here...lol! I have no clue.
That's a new definition to me, but I understand the perspective. I'm still thinking about it, since HIVE and HBD are inherent aspects of the blockchain, so they never leave either, they just constantly reappear. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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It would be really surprising if something that is supposed to be a token on #HiveEngine exists as a coin !INDEED. 🤯
Anyway, in theory, the majority of Hive Witnesses can agree to make the price of the HIVE token $0.001 each, such that every $1 worth of HBD from Hive author rewards will give an equivalent of 500 HIVE tokens and 500 Hive Power at reward payout time to the author !INDEED. 💸🤯😅
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Well, they're quite different, so I don't see that situation arising any time soon.
That would be a rather interesting turn. It sounds a little bit like the present BLURT/SWAP.BLURT price. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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That only shows how important Hive Witnesses are, especially those in the Top 20. 🧘♂️🤓
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Indeed, they kind of run the show, which highlights the extreme importance of voting for the witnesses that we want. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I think that the reason why your "zap" from #Nostr to @savvytester's V4V wallet failed is because the minimum invoice for the V4V Lightning payments is 250 sats according to an official post . 🤯 While paying an invoice is different from directly sending sats, we could assume that the V4V lightning node has also set the minimum of incoming sats as 250 too. 🤓 Perhaps @tydynrain is also interested in this fact! 😎 !HOPE !INDEED !WEIRD !PIZZA !ALIVE
That is good to know indeed. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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It looks like I was able to encourage you a bit further into trying out #Nostr apps again! 😆😎
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Yes, that's true, you did, and I will look more closely into it when I get a more-free moment. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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There is another person on Hive named @mypathtofire (which @savvytester used to talk with a lot here on Hive) who is also active on #Nostr! 😎
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Oh, Steve, yes, I know him, though I haven't spoken with him in a while. That's good to know. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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It has been a whopping 9 months since his last post here on Hive. 🤯
Anyway, I noticed that he certainly saw my previous comment, as he voted it. 😏
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Oh wow, I didn't know that he hasn't been posting lately. That's a shame, because he had interesting posts. Yes, I know he's still around, as I see him doing various things, but it's wild that he hasn't posted. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I tried looking for any of your comments that aren't at least 72 hours old yet, either as a reply directly under my or @savvytester's comments or having the WINEX token tipping command, so that I can tip you WINEX. 🤯 I found only one comment that satisfied the requirement, which is that one. 🍷😅
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That's so odd to hear, because I don't ever get to 72 hours before going through my notifications again. I think that I've only gotten past 24 hours a couple times. I appreciate the sentiment. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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My previous comment implies that I had already replied that time to most of your replies which are 72 hours old or younger, either with the !WINEX command or not. 🍷🤯😅
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Ah, I see, OK, got it. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Let's !HOPE that your "more-free moment" arrives sooner, and that your "great memory" doesn't become full of to-do tasks! 🤗😅
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Me too, and it already is. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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You can still "make" way for new items for your "great memory" by either removing old items or making your memory even greater, where I !HOPE the latter !INDEED. 🤯🤗
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I'm definitely shooting for making my memory even greater. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Yes, better !INDEED to gain more of what is good, rather than discarding something good due to lack of space. 🧘♂️🤓
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True indeed, though memory is not really stored in the brain. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Let's say that memory is stored in the mind, and people sometimes struggle with remembering too much information at certain points in time. 🧘♂️🤯😅
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Yes, that works, and yep, that sometimes occurs when people are overwhelmed by too much new information at once. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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The mind naturally discards what it deems as "unimportant" or "not-so-important" information. 🧘♂️
Your "keyboard autocorrect" made you type
that's works!INDEED. 🤯🤣!WINEX !ALIVE !WEIRD !HOPE
Indeed, though even that is never actually lost. It can be accessed using various techniques. Yep, I saw. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I think that one of the "various techniques" that you are referring to is hypnotism !INDEED. 🌀🤯🤓
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Indeed, that's true, hypnosis can be exceedingly useful. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Hypnosis does help often in conventional psychotherapy, but there are also reported benefits to it outside the field of clinical psychology !INDEED. 🌀🤓
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Indeed, that's true, it can be, and is, used in very effectively in various contexts. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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That makes me wonder if you have undergone (and implemented) hypnosis !INDEED. 🌀🤯😅
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I've never had a hypnosis session, but I've played around and experimented with it in various ways over the years. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Perhaps you would like to undergo a hypnosis session if you know someone who can perform it well and who aligns with your values !INDEED. 🌀🧘♂️🤓
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Yep, indeed, I'd be open to that for sure. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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The chances of someone who can administer hypnosis properly visiting your local jungle community looks very low though. 🌀🤯😅
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Indeed, I would agree with that. I'm on my own. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Perhaps an online hypnosis session would be tolerable for you !INDEED! 🌀🤯😅
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Tolerable yes, though I don't seem to be able to be hypnotized easily, much to my chagrin. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Do you mean that regardless of whether the hypnosis session is face-to-face or digital, you still find it hard to get hypnotized even if you wanted to? 🌀😵💫🤯😅
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I believe so, yes, though I've never had anyone try to hypnotize me face to face. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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In that case, you should experience face-to-face hypnosis to tell how difficult it is for you to !INDEED get hypnotized. 🌀🧘♂️🤯🤓
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Perhaps, though knowing my mind, that analyzes everything, I'm not hopeful in that regard. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Your statement implies that to be hypnotized, a person should avoid analyzing everything !INDEED. 🌀🤯😅
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Well, those that have a difficult time letting go of their need to analyze are notably more challenging to hypnotize. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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It would be !WEIRD !INDEED for someone who wants to be hypnotized to point out every single thing about the hypnotist, such as the color of the clothing or the sound of the voice. 😵💫🤯😅
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Indeed, and annoying too. It's more that s/he would analyze (in their minds) what the hypnotist is saying, and how they're doing it. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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There might be random thoughts in the person being hypnotized during the hypnosis session, such as what toothbrush the hypnotist uses! 🌀🤯🤣
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I can't rule out that being a possibility too, and it would also get in the way of the hypnosis session being successful. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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That may be something which the hypnotist should be aware of, and make adjustments where possible and necessary. 🌀🤯😅
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Some things may require much larger adjustments than others. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Perhaps the hypnotist may deem that the adjustment of switching hypnotist and/or client is necessary! 🤯 In other words, the hypnotist will find another client, and suggest to the client to simply find another hypnotist. 😅
While I understand it, the manner in which you expressed that sentence is pretty confusing, and indeed. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I edited my previous comment to make it easier to understand, and I think that it's much easier to understand now. 😎
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OK, good, and yep, it's a bit clearer now. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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@savvytester would soon test "zapping" #Nostr wallets directly from V4V, first starting at the minimum possible amount (1 sat), then a substantial amount but less than the minimum invoice amount (100 sats), then the minimum invoice amount (250 sats), and finally something higher (1,000 sats, to someone on Nostr that is also active here on Hive). 💸😎
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Oh cool, well I hope that the tests go well, and I look forward to hearing about the results. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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@savvytester told me that they were finally able to send sats to a Lightning Wallet (which is normally used to receive zaps on #Nostr) !INDEED using V4V. 🤓 The better part is that they were able to do so without paying any fee! 😎 However, they haven't tested yet how much the fees would be if they send sats back to the V4V wallet though. 🤯😅
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Oh excellent, that's very good to hear. Yeah, I'd really love to know how it works going in the other direction. I'm hoping that the fees wouldn't be too much. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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It looks like you are really interested in seeing how your #Nostr earnings would help you grow your Hive account faster. 😅 That's okay since whatever zaps you get on Nostr in general are voluntarily given to you, but it would be a good habit on Nostr to zap back to others about half of whatever got zapped to you. 🧘♂️🤗
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Indeed, that's true. I thought about that. That's another area where Hive is better, our votes and tips don't come from our own funds. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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He made a recommendation on his comment 2 days ago regarding which #Nostr Wallet Connect (NWC) app to use for zapping sats. 😎
While he hasn't published a post lately, he at least is quite active commenting here on Hive (with an average of roughly 2 comments a day) and is still active in curating. 😏
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Oh, OK, thanks for the link.
I know a few people like that. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I know that you know that @savvyplayer and @savvytester publishes quite a lot of comments per day but barely publishes any post. 🤣😂
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Indeed, y'all are a part of the no-post party. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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@savvytester told me that there are some other people on Hive who (almost) don't publish posts here on Hive, such as @iceledy, @astramar, and @astym. 😅
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That's one of the great things about Hive, that there are so many different ways to do it. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I have seen quite a lot of people on Hive already create new Hive accounts just to microblog (especially on #Ecency #waves, #InLeo #threads, and #PeakD #snaps). 🤓
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Yep, I've seen that a bit too. I still couldn't imagine creating an account just to use one frontend. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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Let's just say that other people on Hive not only don't mind having at least one other account here on Hive, but also are comfortable with it (especially switching between accounts) !INDEED. 🧘♂️🤓
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Well yes, that's obvious for sure. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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And some of them are also having !FUN with it. 😎
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Different people find such widely varying experiences fun, that I have no doubt. 😁🙏💚✨🤙
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I have never got V4V wallet to work for Zaps, I do not think it is correctly setup with Nostr Wallet Connect that you usually put into your favorite Nostr App.
I can recommend: https://rizful.com/
They run some large channels and setup with Nostr Wallect Connect is fast and easy.
Thanks for your reply, especially for your recommendation for an NWC app! 🤗 I wonder what @crrdlx can tell about that particular Lightning Wallet provider. 😏
Anyway, I think that @savvytester told me roughly a year ago something about you and Hive tipping tokens, but I can't remember exactly what. 🤯 Perhaps it was about you preferring not to tip and/or be tipped tokens? 😅
I'm pretty sure v4v.app does not use nwc at all. I think insaw that bruanof London is doing a total rewrite if the code also by the way. Maybe receiving sats will be easier then.
I was referring to the #Rizful NWC app for #Nostr, not the #V4V Hive app. 🤯
Anyway, it looks like your autocorrect app outputted
insaw that bruanof London is doing a total rewrite if the code also, making it appear drunk !INDEED. 😆😅 !LOLZlolztoken.com
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That's pretty funny. Probably a mix of autocorrect and me fat fingering.
I should have clearly pertained to the #Rizful NWC app though on my previous comment, so that you didn't get confused about which Lightning Wallet app I was talking about !INDEED. 🤯😅 !WEIRD !HOPE !PIZZA